ON THESE YOU SHOULDN’T COMPROMISE – BUT LEAVE ROOM TO BE FLEXIBLE ABOUT OTHER THINGS

Behaviors of a Good Partner, Whether It’s a Company, Organization, or Person

This blog post isn’t only for the Cannabis industry.  I think it applies universally.  And I’m not here to rehash Phylos, but it’s impossible to address this week’s topic without starting by acknowledging the “Phylos Effect” on the Cannabis industry.  The company’s admitted mistakes (and perhaps others that haven’t been admitted yet) started a dialogue within the Cannabis community centering on some core issues and topics.  We have hopefully learned some lessons for which we can be grateful.  I would boil the experience down to lessons learned about three principles that are inter-related and of vital importance.  They are (1) Transparency (2) Accountability and (3) Trustworthiness.  Since I am NOT rehashing Phylos, I will discuss these three principles in a forward-looking way.  People who want to look backward certainly can, and their activism undoubtedly energizes these lessons for us all.  My approach is no criticism of them.  I’m just leaving them to that approach while I take this one.

I’ll frame this discussion in terms of companies because they seem, as a group, to have the hardest time with these things.  Part of that might be inherent in corporate formation and function—it seems that the truly special companies take active measures to overcome the pressures, presumptions, and dynamics that disfavor Transparency and Accountability and Trustworthiness.  But this discussion applies equally to organizations and to individual people.  So as you read this, mentally substitute “person” or “organization” where I write “company.”  Ideally all of the parties and entities we deal with would embrace these values and behaviors.  That’s what we should demand.

Transparency – literally this means that you can see through something—that there is nothing to hide and nowhere to hide it.  Organizations and people who act with Transparency say what they mean and mean what they say.  They don’t have a hidden agenda and they don’t have to lie or intentionally mislead about their goals or their business plans.  What you see is what you get.

Accountability – this means that you take responsibility for your actions, your values, and your decisions and even (especially) for your mistakes.  Organizations and people who act with Accountability may not be mistake-free, but they will not try to dodge the consequences of their actions.  If there are some mistakes made or unintended consequences, they address them head-on and make all reasonable efforts to clean up their own messes.  And they welcome the opportunity to do so.

Trustworthiness – the meaning of this is clear: a person or a company is deserving of your trust.  And it’s hard to imagine a situation in which a person or a company would display real Transparency and behave with Accountability and NOT be worthy of Trust.  Does that mean you will always agree with the company’s choices or actions?  Probably not.  But you can at least trust the company to be real about what it is doing and why.

There is Room for Diversity of Priorities and Values

Let’s distinguish the behaviors of Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness from some of the other things we might wish to find in a company – its values.  It’s not realistic to expect every company, organization, and person to have all of the same values that any one of us might have.  Diversity of goals, values, priorities, etc., can be good.  People who tolerate no deviations from their own values are typically dogmatic, inflexible, unreasonable, and no fun!

There is room to trust a company and still not always agree with it.  There needs to be room for that, in any kind of workable industry.  That can be hard for some in the Cannabis industry because it’s not just an industry.  In many ways it’s also a community, especially among the people who have been in it since before the regulated commercial industry emerged.

Things Have Changed

My sense from conversations I’ve had and observations I’ve made is that in the “old days” there may have been an even greater need for some shared values and priorities, as a matter of survival.  Maybe it was easier to draw lines and know who was on which side.

(I wasn’t there so I’m only going on what people have told me.  And I don’t in any way mean to be speaking for them or claiming the experience and credibility they uniquely have on this topic.  I’m only doing my best to synthesize my own experiences and observations and to do something useful with it.)

But things have shifted.  Business pressures can change people from being apparently Trustworthy to behaving differently and being less reliable.  I’ve heard numerous stories about that from clients who misplaced their trust in people they had known.  They didn’t think legal protections like contracts and patents would be necessary and only learned differently when it was too late.

And, strangely, some groups we may have automatically distrusted have now become essential partners if we want a place in a legal industry.  As an extreme example, even if you’re a survivor of intense persecution by the government, you can’t avoid working with the government to get the necessary licenses, pay taxes, and protect your legal rights.  It is an interaction that isn’t perfect and is almost never fun, but it’s a necessary one, nonetheless.

Value Fallacies?  We All Have Them—Some We Hold Dearly

Here are some examples of things that seem to be mistakenly valued in at least some circles.  Some people embrace these values and equate them with measures of Trustworthiness.  But I would argue that these are “value fallacies.”  They will distract us from a more useful focus on Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness by getting us riled up about the wrong things.  You may disagree, even vehemently.  But give these some open-minded thought:

  1. Being anti-corporate – Admit it. Many of us have used the term “corporate” as synonymous with “heartless,” “sterile,” “evil,” and so on.  But in the US, it’s virtually impossible to achieve very much commercially without incorporating in some way.  Refusal to do so will eventually lead to major negative tax consequences and potentially paralyzing liability risks.  And incorporating isn’t a dodge of necessary taxes and all liability.  It’s a way to work within the system that is there, to permit a business to function over the long haul.  People who refuse to incorporate on some kind of moral grounds are playing a competitive game with one hand voluntarily tied behind their back.  It’s simply not realistic or sustainable in most cases.  We can and should distinguish between the good and the bad not based on whether they have incorporated, but based on their behaviors of Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness.
  2. Being anti-success – I have heard numerous conversations and seen countless posts that seem to reflect a near knee-jerk reaction to distrusting any company that is experiencing success or even making an all-out effort to succeed. I believe this comes from experience with companies that chose success over the behaviors of Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness.  It may also arise partly from some frustrations about who appears to be succeeding and who doesn’t.  It often seems that the playing field isn’t remotely level as to some in the community. That is something we should separately address so that all can have an equal shot at success. But I would argue that there is room for truly Trustworthy companies to succeed and, when they do, that should be celebrated rather than criticized or resented.
  3. Being anti-profit – We have been conditioned to treat the concepts of “profit” and “greed” as though they were the same thing. This implies that it’s possible to sustain a business without profit or that it’s impossible to make a sustainable profit unless a business is greedy.  But a business that simply isn’t profitable probably won’t be around long to provide jobs, products, or services.  It won’t be sustainable.  I don’t actually think we mean to criticize the profitability.  We instead may be reflecting our experience and assumptions that the profit was achieved through some untrustworthy behaviors.  Let’s re-examine that and demand Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness without always distrusting profitable enterprises.
  4. Being anti-growth – Some companies get big by means of all sorts of abuses, but some companies get big just by being very good at what they do. It is a value fallacy to dismiss all big companies as being untrustworthy just because of their size.  It may be very appropriate to be skeptical and to demand an even higher level of Transparency and Accountability of larger companies, because it is easy for even the good ones to become distracted or impersonal.  But if all large companies are seen as the enemy, we ourselves are distracted from being prepared fully to take on and stand up to the genuinely bad companies.
  5. Being anti-patent – Of course I was going to get to this—I’m a patent attorney. Many believe that patents are inherently wrong.  But most of these same people use locks of some sort to protect their own property.  They pay for things produced by the labor of others instead of expecting that the labor should have just been donated to the public good.  They pay for creative content such as movies and books and music and usually understand that the artist who originated those things deserves to be paid for their work and talent.  But then for some reason they still believe there is something inherently bad about all patents, when in many cases patenting is the only way for a plant breeder or an innovator to get paid for her life’s work.  Being completely anti-patent means there are certain professions (plant breeder, innovator) that should just dedicate their work to the public domain.  That doesn’t mean that all patents are good or properly granted or appropriate.  Some patents represent invalid over-reaches and are to “good patents” like greed is to profit.  You can hate the abuses without hating the underlying system that sometimes is abused.  If you still don’t see how someone can embrace IP protection, such as patents, and still be an ethical and positive member of an industry and a community, please read this.

Demands and Goals

So is there a take-home message?  Is there a call to action?  Hell yes!

  1. DEMAND TRANSPARENCY – When you are dealing with a business (or an organization or a person), don’t start from a position of trust or distrust. Start from a position of demanding Transparency.  Ask questions.  Investigate.  See what the answers are like.  Are they evasive?  Do they make sense?  Are they consistent?  This is all about Transparency.  If a business lacks Transparency, that is when it’s time to start distrusting the business.  Don’t make it about whether the business is making a profit or trying to.  Don’t even necessarily make it about how big the business is.  Make it about Transparency first.

Be realistic, though, about the fact that many companies have to keep some secrets in order to function.  But there is a difference between keeping company secrets and being deceptive or misleading or outright untruthful.  People need and deserve a certain amount of privacy.  Even companies may need that.  But privacy can’t be a shield for dishonesty.

My goal for all companies is that they would embrace Transparency and welcome investigations and hard questions about how Transparent they really are.  They would be who they say they are and do what they say they are going to do.  We should not accept less from the companies we work with.

  1. DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY – Observe and learn what you can about the company’s Accountability. Has the company been clear about its rules and values for itself and is it willing to be Accountable to those rules and values?  Does it show real Accountability when a mistake has been made?  Does it show a genuine commitment to fix its mistakes and clean up its messes?

Don’t presuppose that all good companies would have the same values or priorities or rules for themselves.  Allow for each company to define its purpose and mission and values.  But demand to know what they are and how the company will be Accountable for its actions.

My goal for all companies is that they would establish a Company Constitution to articulate the company’s values and priorities, for all to see.  This would show both Transparency and Accountability.  But a further goal is that Company Constitution would also set rules by which the company commits to abide.  Such a company would invite its customers and partners to hold it Accountable in its behavior according to its stated values and rules.  A truly Accountable company would create a Constitution strong enough that it could not be swept away with a change in ownership or control.  Investors would invest knowing what they are getting and would, in so doing, embrace that Accountability.  They would literally “buy in” to the company’s Accountability as part of their investment.

  1. RECOGNIZE AND REWARD TRUSTWORTHINESS – If you demand Transparency and Accountability you will have a Trustworthy company as your partner. If it sounds simple, it’s because it IS simple.

Don’t trust a company that does not consistently show Transparency and Accountability.

My goal for all companies and their customers and partners is that it would become commercially untenable for companies to be unwilling to consistently abide by the principles of Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness.

And finally…

My goal for all of us is that we would not only demand these things of the companies and organizations and people around us, but that we would do our best, day in and day out, to abide by the same principles.  That we would also demand Transparency, Accountability, and Trustworthiness of ourselves in our dealings with others.

We as an industry and as a community will never get what we don’t consistently demand.  If there is a single most important lesson to be learned from recent events in this industry, this is it.  And it’s a lesson for any industry—maybe any relationship.

IT’S NICE TO BE NEEDED, IF NOT ALWAYS BELIEVED!

“UPOV PBR” in the US is Only Available for Industrial Hemp

There are a lot of people out there with some background in plant-related IP and some of them have strong opinions about the right way to do things.  I know because I hear from them.  That’s a wonderful thing about the open lines of communication available via social media and other tools—it seems nearly everyone is accessible to nearly everyone else.  I wouldn’t want it any other way, because this helps me understand what still needs to be emphasized and reinforced in blogs like this.

I’m going to borrow from some interactions this past week or so, editing very lightly to make it more generally useful.  Here is a question I was asked very recently: “If you have 20 years of experience with UPOV PBR why suggest to average clients to get an expensive plant patent for a Cannabis variety? Most can neither afford to obtain or defend a Cannabis plant patent unless I am mistaken?”

And here is my answer:

UPOV in the US is Uniquely Unlike the Rest of the World

First, UPOV Plant Breeders’ Rights in the US are only available under the USDA Plant Variety Protection Act (PVPA) and only cover seed-propagated plants.  An amendment to the PVPA permitting the USDA PVP system to also cover asexually propagated plants was passed as part of the 2018 Farm Bill, but the USDA is still working out the administrative rules and procedures for this, so applications to cover asexually-propagated plants are still not being accepted.

The original limitation in the PVPA to cover only seed-propagated plants was a special carve-out from the normal UPOV scope that covers both sexually and asexually propagated plants, and it was done this way in the US because asexually propagated plants have been covered under the Plant Patent Act since the 1930s (this Act established the plant-patent system as a special form of protection outside of the normal utility-patent system).

A Special Exception in UPOV Just for the US

The US is unique in having this divided IP system, and the UPOV Act of 1991 was specifically written to accommodate this, by including Article 35(2).  If you look at footnote 8 of the list of UPOV members, that “reservation” was exercised by the US and never has been by any other UPOV member.  Since the US is the only country with a split system, no other country will ever need to invoke Article 35(2).

OK so IP to cover plants in the US, unlike anywhere else in the world, is really three different systems:

  1. USDA PVP (i.e., UPOV) which is still available only for sexually propagated plants (but that exclusion will go away soon).
  2. USPTO plant patenting, which is only available for asexually propagated plants.
  3. USPTO utility patenting, which is available for both modes of propagation.

Testing for Distinctness, Uniformity, and Stability

Something else that is very important to know about the USDA PVP system is that it requires a seed deposit with the authorized USDA seed depository.  And until very recently, no kind of Cannabis seeds were accepted for deposit.  Very recently the USDA started accepting deposits of seeds for “Industrial Hemp” as defined in the Farm Bill (Cannabis sativa having less than 0.3% THC).  Once the USDA is equipped to work with asexually propagated plants, it will require “witness plants” for DUS examination.  DUS testing is the UPOV approach to determining whether a given cultivar is suitable for protection.  The D stands for Distinctness and asks whether the cultivar can be distinguished from the closest know cultivars including but not necessarily limited to the parents.  The U is for Uniformity and asks whether a group of seeds or a group of clones all grow out to being true-to-type—having the characteristics that define the cultivar.  The S comes from Stability and asks whether multiple generations of seeds or clones consistently show the same characteristics as previous generations.  These tests are done under consistent conditions to try to remove the variability that would come from different cultivation techniques from one test to the next.

USDA will never accept deposits or witness plants for a form of Cannabis that is still federally illegal.  And USDA has not yet worked out exactly how they will do DUS testing for clones of Industrial Hemp or any other clonally propagated variety people may wish to protect under USDA PVP/UPOV.

What this means, and it is part of my answer to your question about why I would suggest that people get a plant patent for their Cannabis cultivars is that UPOV protection in the US (the USDA PVP system) is that quite literally not available for most Cannabis cultivars that people want to protect.  The only kinds of Cannabis cultivars protectable via UPOV in the US are cultivars of seed-propagated industrial hemp.

If You Want to Protect Marijuana, You Can’t Go to the USDA

I have clients who want to protect their higher-THC cultivars and even who want to protect hemp cultivars that they are cloning instead of seed-propagating.  If I tried to push them toward UPOV protection in the US, I would be committing malpractice because that form of protection is absolutely not available, period.

The “deposit problem” that makes USDA PVP impossible for everything except industrial hemp is not a problem for plant patents, because the plant patent system does not require a deposit of any kind.  So, there’s no issue of federal illegality–the USPTO has been issuing Cannabis-related patents since the 1940s and has so far issued three plant patents for Cannabis cultivars, with many, many more that are pending and working their way through the process.

Getting Real About the Cost Comparison

Another part of your question also deserves comment, and that is the part about plant patents being expensive.  In fact, a USDA PVP application, including the seed deposit, costs $5150 in USDA fees alone.  So even before paying ANY attorney fees for this, the USDA fees by themselves cost more than we charge for preparing and filing a plant patent application.

Obviously there are USPTO fees on top of what we charge for our work doing plant patent applications, and there are costs associated with responding to the very common requests from the USPTO examiner to provide more information about the cultivar, but we typically see cost averages for plant patents, start-to-finish, including USPTO fees, between $10k and $12k paid out over the course of the process from examination to issuance.  I’m not meaning to imply that this is a trivial amount, but it’s very comparable to the cost of obtaining a USDA PVP registration (if it were even available).  ($5150 plus attorney fees for preparing the application and moving it through the process to allowance would likely add up to a total of $8-10k, and potentially more depending upon an attorney’s billing rate and whether anything unusual arose during the DUS testing that would require attorney work to resolve.)

The expensive form of US IP protection for plants is a utility patent.  However, it is currently the only option available for seed-propagated non-hemp Cannabis.  I won’t go into a lot of utility patents because this email is already getting long.  I have blogged about all of this at PlantLaw.com.

I Don’t Tell People What to Do, I Listen and then Tell Them About Their Actual Options

One last part of your question I’d like to address is the part about suggesting to average clients that they get a plant patent.  In fact, I don’t.  I listen first to what they want to accomplish with their cultivar, how they propagate it, how they are going to commercialize it, why they believe that they need some protection, etc.  Then we talk about the options and what their choices are.  It’s a matter of giving good legal advice that takes into account a client’s situation.  And in some cases, the advice is that if their security is strong enough, maybe they don’t need any formal kind of IP protection, especially if they are having trouble affording it.  See this recent blog post, and please do read all of it before deciding it’s incorrect or it’s bad advice.

OK, I hope that explains why I don’t recommend UPOV for my Cannabis clients.  I absolutely would outside the US, obviously, and will within the US, as one option, once the USDA PVP system accepts such applications.  However, even then, there are numerous considerations that go into deciding the right way to protect a given cultivar.  I went into this in a recent blog.

Are Self-Taught Cannabis Breeders Unqualified? I Say No

Just one other comment about plant breeders, and we may just need to agree to disagree on this point.  I have worked with PhD plant breeders at universities and with BS- or MS-level plant breeders who work for several of my clients.  While they have training in genetics and inheritance, every one of them that I have worked with has been focused on phenotypes.  They do a cross of parents that have some of the traits they are looking for and then they grow out many, many of the offspring and select the ones with the best phenotypes and keep propagating and selecting until they have something worth protecting.

This is exactly what I see self-taught Cannabis breeders also doing.  While I may understand more about genetics, epigenetics, pleiotropic inheritance, recombination rates, the biochemistry of terpenes and cannabinoids and flavonoids, these breeders know what they are doing, and they get very special results.  Obviously, some (including some clients I’m working with) are looking for a particular chemotypic profile or at least for something that meets certain chemotypic criteria.  They get their certificates of analysis (COAs), which are now readily available since many states require them as part of the legal Cannabis market.  And the breeders I work with definitely know how to read a COA and make decisions based on it.  College and formal training is not without value, but from where I sit, having worked with breeders whose training ranges from self-taught to PhDs in plant breeding, it seems to me that they end up doing and looking for the same kinds of things.  Now, if one were doing marker-assisted breeding as many in Big Ag do, that would be different.  I’m talking about fruit and grass and flower breeders, whose work approach in general terms is very similar to that of Cannabis breeders I know.

Well, that blog kind of wrote itself this week, by being lifted straight out of an email I sent.  I hope it’s helpful.  You can always get in touch for help with these things by going to PlantAndPlanet.com.

 

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND “REAL” PROPERTY HAVE IMPORTANT THINGS IN COMMON

Learning from Cannabis Pros and a Football Pro

I was part of a panel discussion recently in a redwood campground in the hills of Mendocino County, California.  That area has become one of my favorite places — partly because of the beauty of the natural setting, one of the few locations where the truly awesome Giant Redwoods can be found.  Another reason I love that area so much is that it is one of the places that old-school Cannabis people have made their living and continue to do so.  The panel included some industry veterans who have been through many more battles than I will probably ever face.  It was educational and exciting to be on this outdoor stage with them, and I learned some new things.  That was enough to make any day a good day.  But there was one topic we touched on, in this panel discussion, that still stuck with me as I was driving away from that beautiful retreat.

I have several vices, but maybe only one outright addiction: NFL football.  I listen to NFL talk on satellite radio year-round.  It’s something most of my friends and family seem to think is a combination of obsessive and tedious, but I don’t mind being a minority of one among my dear ones when it comes to this addiction.  So why am I confessing my maybe-tedious NFL-radio addiction after leading this blog with the grandeur of the redwoods and weed people?

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By Dale Hunt – The opinions expressed here are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect those of his professional colleagues or his clients.  Nothing in this post should be construed as legal advice.  Meaningful legal advice can only be provided by taking into consideration specific facts in view of the relevant law.

HOW’S THAT FOR A TITLE? YOU’D BETTER READ ON

Hubbub Is a Word and It Happened This Week

I always get the best blog ideas from questions that come up during the week, and this week was no exception.  A friend of mine whom I haven’t yet met in person (interesting times, these) brought to my attention some controversy on social media about a plant patent and asked me a series of great questions about the patent itself and the hubbub around it.  (I’m surprised my spellcheck didn’t go nuts just now, but apparently hubbub is a word.)

The crux of it was this:  There was a plant patent posted somewhere on social media and certain portions of the description were highlighted.  One portion described that the new cultivar was made from an open cross between two traditional varieties.  Another highlighted portion pointed to some phenotypic features of this new variety that could apply broadly to a huge number of other varieties as well.

When you look at a plant patent, you’ll typically see several pages of detailed botanical description like “Stem morphology.—Rugose — longitudinal ribs with corky lenticels on older portions.”  Or you might see curious botanical terminology like “hirsute peduncle.”  And, after you google “hirsute peduncle” to see if that’s even real (it is) and what it looks like (it’s not as weird as it sounds), you will still be left wondering how it helps protect this particular cultivar or distinguish it from others.

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By Dale Hunt – The opinions expressed here are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect those of his professional colleagues or his clients.  Nothing in this post should be construed as legal advice.  Meaningful legal advice can only be provided by taking into consideration specific facts in view of the relevant law.

AN ALTERNATIVE OR ENHANCEMENT TO YOUR PATENT STRATEGY

Ask A Lawyer a Question and This is What You Get

I was asked recently about whether it is true that, if you never sell your plants, you can renew your patent or your patent never expires.  My answer was that like a lot of things people ask lawyers — there is a short answer and a longer, more detailed explanation and, of course, I’ll give both.

Short answer:  No, it’s not literally true but, in practical terms, it could seem like it is.

Whaaaat???

That is what long answers are for.

Long answer:  Patents always expire, and courts and policymakers really hate it when patent owners try to get tricky and get around patent expiration.  So don’t go there.  HOWEVER, your right to ownership and control of what is rightfully yours without having it stolen from you doesn’t expire, and that is where the answer circles back to the way the question was asked.  So I’ll paraphrase it now to put the concept into the right context.

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By Dale Hunt – The opinions expressed here are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect those of his professional colleagues or his clients.  Nothing in this post should be construed as legal advice.  Meaningful legal advice can only be provided by taking into consideration specific facts in view of the relevant law.